For example, Hillary and Haylie Duff. Did they get in due to their brains or talent or money?
Can anyone get in as long as they are rich enough?
When a celeb goes to a prestigious university like Harvard, does this mean they are very capable and smart?
I think that at any college you have to have money, tuition isn't free, and since they can afford it, why can't they get a better education? I don't think it's because they are famous, I think that Hillary is very bright also and that she could hold her own. Haylie I don't really care too much about...well...I don't really like Hillary either but I know a little bit more about Hillary...so..umm..well... I think that as long as a person has tuition money for what ever college you are going to you can get in, and you also have to have a high school diploma and good grades are also a plus. Now if Paris Hilton got into Harvard, then I would rethink what I just stated and go and protest like all hell lmfao Paris is an idiot to me, and she will always be. But...that's for anouther post.
Reply:i am pretty sure they will get in as long as they can pay the tution if you are not as smart it will probably cost more to attend the colleges. The money helps the college also so they will get treated differently if their parents may alot of money bc they will not want to loose them as students bc then the money will stop comming.
Reply:I think I can help a bit here. At my alma mater, my class valedictorian (a personal friend) is now the registrar, and we recently went through the process of my son's application (my school was one of seven, but it gave me the best insight).
The elite schools are looking for well-rounded individuals in a variety of ways. They need enough full-tuition students (the rich ones) to help subsidize the ones who need financial aid. Note, however, that even those paying full tuition are not paying their own ways: alumni contributions, endowments, grants, and other program support provide about 2/3 of the cost. If that "silver spoon" kid down the hall is shelling out $30k per year, the actual cost of education at the institution is likely pushing $100,000 per head.
They're also looking for people with all sorts of skills, backgrounds, and abilities. If they nab a large clutch of math whizzes in the early-decision period, the regular application span will see them taking more in the arts and humanities.
Again, this is all a massive balancing act. The admissions staff gets headaches for six months of the year, sweating over the applications, discussing what they've seen, and trading a few interesting cases back and forth for classification and decision. What about the homeschooler who nailed 800 math, 780 verbal, led her Destination Imagination team to a regional title, but doesn't seem to understand the concept of a paragraph? She plans to major in photographic chemistry.
Money has influence: it widens the categories into which you can be placed. Fame had influence: it brings a personal viewpoint that very few people get. Imagine having Jodie Foster as your roommate for two years -- what would you learn from her late at night? What experiences does she bring to lieterature class? She's *lived* some of the classic periods, keeping a character in the mid 19th century for a six-month shooting schedule.
I got in on pretty much raw test scores. Fortunately, my school doesn't keep it to the best SATs. My dorm unit included two guys from the "wrong side of the tracks", a football player, the son of a lingerie designer, a stereotypical city kid with a lot of potential and lousy English skills, and so on. We were the "leftovers" unit, and it was one fo the best experiences of my life. It turned into one of the most creative areas of campus, due to the wide range of backgrounds and the level of acceptance we built from day one.
I learned as much from them (perhaps more) than from my profs (who put the school in "40 Colleges that Change Lives"). Every year, the process centers on the admissions department. It's almost like the annual draft for a sports team: we need some of everything. If we have a weakness, we need to fill it. Oh, yeah -- we need a free agent to bring in more money, too. Grab the tall kid from Nebraska; he needs training, but the attitude is great, and he volunteers in the community.
Money talks. So does talent ... and fame ... and being yourself. You don't even have to be a leader: every leader needs followers with organizational skills, one-on-one understanding, and loyalty. FInd your niche, tell them who you are, and have a back-up plan. My son didn't get into his first choice, but he wouldn't trade his current situation if that first-choice school now offered him a full scholarship.
Reply:money speaks! even if you are the dumbest student in the class and you are famous and rich or your parents is. then you are guaranteed admission. as long you have the money and famous face then pack your books and welcome to the class! because you have just be admitted to the school.
Reply:I say money!!! and fame!!! It is free publicity for the school. None of those kids have BRAINS!!!!
Reply:I don't care how much money you have ... you can't get into a school like Harvard unless you are at least slightly intelligent/qualified. Think about it ... do you really think they're going to let someone who eats their own buggers in (for example) just because they're rich or connected? Its a common myth, but logically its completely ridiculous.
No matter how much money you have, once you are in Harvard you have to operate at their academic level, so if you're not smart enough you're going to fail whether or not you have money.
Sometimes schools like Harvard bend rules for influential people, but they're not going to bend them that far. I was admitted to the University of Southern California (didn't end up attending) because an uncle of mine who donated two million dollars to the school called in a favor. However, I had a 3.75 GPA (unweighted) and a 1420 on my SAT's (I was academically qualified to go there ... I just couldn't afford it).
Reply:You need brains. The top universities give out a lot of financial aid, so they do not need rich people who are not very smart to attend.
Reply:I think anyone can get in as long as they are rich enough...
Reply:Money has influence.
Going to these schools is more about having and gaining new connections. The curriculum is good but can be found in the same quality elsewhere as well. Knowledge does not equate wisdom or common sense.
Reply:You can't get into Harvard unless you have good grades and high SAT scores. Other factors can be involved too, such as your areas of interests, previous achievements and whether or not your parents are Harvard alumni.
Reply:I think that for a celeb to get into Harvard, they do have to be capable and smart. I think that for an non-celeb to get in, they have to be extremely capable and exceptionally smart.
Reply:Well Brooke Shields and Jodie Foster did it and they are intelligent. Perhaps entrance is easier but I do believe you still have to do the work. I don't think the university would eschew academic integrity simply for ones celebrity status.
Reply:i think that their being capable and smart might be measured by the "talent" they have demonstrated rather than their academic history.
Saturday, April 17, 2010
Do you think a high level university (stanford, harvard) will accept me?
Hi guys
i'm a freshman in highschool right now, but i'm really concerned about my chances of getting into a good college. my current gpa is 3.6 and i am in math club and going to do soccer in the spring. i am currently taking all periods and no off periods and plan to do that for my entire time at the high school. i am going to join key club next year, and play tennis and either basketball wrestling. i think this will help my chances in getting into a good college. also, i'm only a freshman, so i still have time to raise my gpa and get in community service hours. i know colleges are looking for people who stand out from the crowd. i have a youtube account and make vlogs, and now everyone in the school knows me. does that count? what else should I do?
please tell me all the advice you can give me!!!
Do you think a high level university (stanford, harvard) will accept me?
I agree with Adam. Fact is no amount of community service or tennis will get you into Harvard. Believe it or not, the youtube/video stuff will help, but you need to turn that into something productive - a business, non-profit, something that no one else has thought about. A very average Harvard student will have led student government, volunteered in her community and church, participated on the debate team and academic decathlon, and graduated in the top 2% of her class after taking the hardest possible course curriculum. And this (hypothetical) person is only average because she did not do something truly extraordinary.
Fact is, the way you're going, you have very little chance at an top Ivy League (Stanford is a hack school so who knows). But I wouldn't worry about it - just do the best you can in school, enjoy HS, and apply to top 50 schools, especially in your area. But if you must, continue with the hardest classes you can possible take, and get A's in them all.
Reply:You will need to have perfect grades from now on, and you need to take the toughest classes possible if you want to go to an elite school. The extracurricular activities are important, but only if your grades and test scores are good enough, so be careful not to focus on those to the detriment of your grades.
Rather than focusing on some particular school or schools, which ends up being a great frustration for many people, you would do better to focus on creating as many options for yourself as possible. By the time you are a junior, you may or may not want to go to Harvard or Stanford; however, what you definitely want is to be in a position to choose to do whatever you want to do, rather than having to settle for what is available to you.
Reply:Those schools are massively over-rated. Don't even bother. There are dozens of wonderful schools aside from Harvard and Stanford. I suggest you focus your efforts on those instead.
As for what you should do - you should enjoy your high school experience. You're only a freshman. Do those things you are most interested in, work hard in your classes, and don't get involved in the thankless rat race for the small handful of Ivy League schools - waste of time.
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i'm a freshman in highschool right now, but i'm really concerned about my chances of getting into a good college. my current gpa is 3.6 and i am in math club and going to do soccer in the spring. i am currently taking all periods and no off periods and plan to do that for my entire time at the high school. i am going to join key club next year, and play tennis and either basketball wrestling. i think this will help my chances in getting into a good college. also, i'm only a freshman, so i still have time to raise my gpa and get in community service hours. i know colleges are looking for people who stand out from the crowd. i have a youtube account and make vlogs, and now everyone in the school knows me. does that count? what else should I do?
please tell me all the advice you can give me!!!
Do you think a high level university (stanford, harvard) will accept me?
I agree with Adam. Fact is no amount of community service or tennis will get you into Harvard. Believe it or not, the youtube/video stuff will help, but you need to turn that into something productive - a business, non-profit, something that no one else has thought about. A very average Harvard student will have led student government, volunteered in her community and church, participated on the debate team and academic decathlon, and graduated in the top 2% of her class after taking the hardest possible course curriculum. And this (hypothetical) person is only average because she did not do something truly extraordinary.
Fact is, the way you're going, you have very little chance at an top Ivy League (Stanford is a hack school so who knows). But I wouldn't worry about it - just do the best you can in school, enjoy HS, and apply to top 50 schools, especially in your area. But if you must, continue with the hardest classes you can possible take, and get A's in them all.
Reply:You will need to have perfect grades from now on, and you need to take the toughest classes possible if you want to go to an elite school. The extracurricular activities are important, but only if your grades and test scores are good enough, so be careful not to focus on those to the detriment of your grades.
Rather than focusing on some particular school or schools, which ends up being a great frustration for many people, you would do better to focus on creating as many options for yourself as possible. By the time you are a junior, you may or may not want to go to Harvard or Stanford; however, what you definitely want is to be in a position to choose to do whatever you want to do, rather than having to settle for what is available to you.
Reply:Those schools are massively over-rated. Don't even bother. There are dozens of wonderful schools aside from Harvard and Stanford. I suggest you focus your efforts on those instead.
As for what you should do - you should enjoy your high school experience. You're only a freshman. Do those things you are most interested in, work hard in your classes, and don't get involved in the thankless rat race for the small handful of Ivy League schools - waste of time.
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How much does a year cost in a university like harvard, yale, oxford or cambridge?
i just wanted to know how much a year costs in one of those prestigious universities...i can't find anything on their site
How much does a year cost in a university like harvard, yale, oxford or cambridge?
"If you have to ask, you can't afford it"--an old and wise saying. Write the registrat at each and ask, dude.
Reply:Harvard and Yale are over $45K per year.
Oxford and Cambridge are probably $50K per year once you include the exchange rates.
Reply:I had a bro go to harvard last month it was like 19,000 for a freshman year. Good luck!
Reply:and to add on to the others, tuition fees increases every year in every school
Reply:Those schools... the tuition is 30,000 bucks, then the room and board is another 10,000 dollars, then books and fees which is like 2,000?... this is all in ONE year. You have to be rich or genius enough to get good scholarships to get to go to those places.
go to www.collegeboard.com
Reply:I think it is like 80K -100K or something.
How much does a year cost in a university like harvard, yale, oxford or cambridge?
"If you have to ask, you can't afford it"--an old and wise saying. Write the registrat at each and ask, dude.
Reply:Harvard and Yale are over $45K per year.
Oxford and Cambridge are probably $50K per year once you include the exchange rates.
Reply:I had a bro go to harvard last month it was like 19,000 for a freshman year. Good luck!
Reply:and to add on to the others, tuition fees increases every year in every school
Reply:Those schools... the tuition is 30,000 bucks, then the room and board is another 10,000 dollars, then books and fees which is like 2,000?... this is all in ONE year. You have to be rich or genius enough to get good scholarships to get to go to those places.
go to www.collegeboard.com
Reply:I think it is like 80K -100K or something.
Who went to Boston University or Harvard? Or any Ivy Leage? Is it good? Do you like it?
Umm, Boston U isn't an Ivy League... I didn't go there, but I've applied, if that counts. I know people there who love it, but it is on the large side, and there isn't really a campus, as it's integrated into the city of Boston. For me, that's a turn-off, but again, lots of people love it.
Who went to Boston University or Harvard? Or any Ivy Leage? Is it good? Do you like it?
I have a friend at Boston U. They've got strong school spirit there but its not ivy league.
Who went to Boston University or Harvard? Or any Ivy Leage? Is it good? Do you like it?
I have a friend at Boston U. They've got strong school spirit there but its not ivy league.
Which is the best University....Columbia, Harvard or Stanford?
I was just wondering....
Which is the best University....Columbia, Harvard or Stanford?
Maybe none of them. It really depends on you and what you are looking for. Each school has its own personality and strengths. Finding the right college is about FIT, not a brand name.
I would also throw out there that if you are an undergraduate student none of them are the best. Most people know them because they publish a lot of their research, but that it at the GRADUATE level. All those big name professors don't interact with the undergrads. You won't be working with them, getting the benefit of their amazing work, etc. You will be a number in a classroom full of people, probably working with a teaching assistant.
If you are considering one of these ultra competitive schools, there is a high probability you will also go on to graduate school. Here is an alternative. Consider a small private liberal arts school. They too are ultracompetitive, but one of the big differences is that there are no grad students who get to do the cool stuff. Classes are typically 20 people. Your professor KNOWS you personally (very helpful later when you need letters of rec for grad programs) and works at a small school because he or she loves to teach. They still do research and keep current on their fields, and since there are no grad students YOU get to be the one to help them. There are more opportunities than there is time to take advantage of all the things at small schools.
And in case you are worried about "attending a school no one has heard of", you are wasting your time. Graduates of top liberal arts colleges are highly desirable to grad schools and businesses. Not only do they have the research skills already, but they can COMMUNICATE what they know too! Knowledge is useless if you can't communicate it to another person. They also tend to be good at time management and are used to a competitive environment.
So go to an undergrad only school where YOU are the priority, and then to a big name school like you mentioned which is better suited to grad students for your advanced degree.
But even if you disregard all I have said about small schools, make sure you find a fit, not just a brand name. You only have four years and you want to get the best possible experience.
Reply:For what? That makes all the difference. All have strengths (such as Stanford for EE), and in their strengths that would be the school of choice. Harvard does have the best alumni network, however.
Reply:i heve best univarsity is harvard %26amp; londan
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Reply:It depends on what major you want to focus on
Reply:I think Harvard is the best.
Which is the best University....Columbia, Harvard or Stanford?
Maybe none of them. It really depends on you and what you are looking for. Each school has its own personality and strengths. Finding the right college is about FIT, not a brand name.
I would also throw out there that if you are an undergraduate student none of them are the best. Most people know them because they publish a lot of their research, but that it at the GRADUATE level. All those big name professors don't interact with the undergrads. You won't be working with them, getting the benefit of their amazing work, etc. You will be a number in a classroom full of people, probably working with a teaching assistant.
If you are considering one of these ultra competitive schools, there is a high probability you will also go on to graduate school. Here is an alternative. Consider a small private liberal arts school. They too are ultracompetitive, but one of the big differences is that there are no grad students who get to do the cool stuff. Classes are typically 20 people. Your professor KNOWS you personally (very helpful later when you need letters of rec for grad programs) and works at a small school because he or she loves to teach. They still do research and keep current on their fields, and since there are no grad students YOU get to be the one to help them. There are more opportunities than there is time to take advantage of all the things at small schools.
And in case you are worried about "attending a school no one has heard of", you are wasting your time. Graduates of top liberal arts colleges are highly desirable to grad schools and businesses. Not only do they have the research skills already, but they can COMMUNICATE what they know too! Knowledge is useless if you can't communicate it to another person. They also tend to be good at time management and are used to a competitive environment.
So go to an undergrad only school where YOU are the priority, and then to a big name school like you mentioned which is better suited to grad students for your advanced degree.
But even if you disregard all I have said about small schools, make sure you find a fit, not just a brand name. You only have four years and you want to get the best possible experience.
Reply:For what? That makes all the difference. All have strengths (such as Stanford for EE), and in their strengths that would be the school of choice. Harvard does have the best alumni network, however.
Reply:i heve best univarsity is harvard %26amp; londan
but your choice my choice to londan
pls love mail giveme pls %26amp; ask me you
Reply:It depends on what major you want to focus on
Reply:I think Harvard is the best.
Where is the University of Harvard located?
Cambridge, Massachusetts
Where is the University of Harvard located?
At Harvard Square in Cambridge. The streets are line with trees and you can see old English America first hand. The buildings are historical and the atmosphere is very intellectual. Book stores, students reading on the grass and movement of student going to and from class.
Reply:Spread out all over the place.
Cambridge, Boston and Allston Massachusetts.
A good read is Homeless to Harvard. True story of a disadvantaged young girl who actually was accepted into Harvard
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Where is the University of Harvard located?
At Harvard Square in Cambridge. The streets are line with trees and you can see old English America first hand. The buildings are historical and the atmosphere is very intellectual. Book stores, students reading on the grass and movement of student going to and from class.
Reply:Spread out all over the place.
Cambridge, Boston and Allston Massachusetts.
A good read is Homeless to Harvard. True story of a disadvantaged young girl who actually was accepted into Harvard
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Is MIT University and Harvard the same name?
No; they are two separate universities. They are both in Massachusetts (Cambridge and Boston, respectively), but beyond that, they're two totally different institutions.
Is MIT University and Harvard the same name?
No, MIT is Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard is Harvard.
Reply:MIT is massachustes institute of tennology
which is in massacustes, us
hardvard is in uk and mostly known for business schools
Reply:They are two different colleges though both of them are in the same city (Boston). Here are their websites:
http://www.harvard.edu/
http://www.mit.edu/
Reply:No. MIT is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Both are in the same city, Cambridge, Massachusetts, however and are less than a mile away from each other.
Reply:MIT is Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard is Harvad. They are both located in MA and are both Ivy league schools.
Reply:These are two different universities. MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) and Harvard University are both located in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Both are ivy league, elite schools.
MIT is mainly engineering, Harvard produces mainly scholars, doctors and lawyers.
Reply:uhhhh.....oh.....NO.
Is MIT University and Harvard the same name?
No, MIT is Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard is Harvard.
Reply:MIT is massachustes institute of tennology
which is in massacustes, us
hardvard is in uk and mostly known for business schools
Reply:They are two different colleges though both of them are in the same city (Boston). Here are their websites:
http://www.harvard.edu/
http://www.mit.edu/
Reply:No. MIT is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Both are in the same city, Cambridge, Massachusetts, however and are less than a mile away from each other.
Reply:MIT is Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard is Harvad. They are both located in MA and are both Ivy league schools.
Reply:These are two different universities. MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) and Harvard University are both located in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Both are ivy league, elite schools.
MIT is mainly engineering, Harvard produces mainly scholars, doctors and lawyers.
Reply:uhhhh.....oh.....NO.
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